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Date: 28 Oct 87 20:54:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Owen Adair)
Subject: MS-Kermit for the GRiD Compass
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 2.29C, GRiD Compass

I am using kermit for the GRiD. I have difficulty using the BREAK function
while online. It seems to reset the serial port or something. Is there
anyone else out there using MSKermit with the GRiD?

Owen Adair, WD4FSU
Digital Signal Processing Lab, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332
Internet:       [e-mail]
uucp:  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,rutgers,seismo}!gatech!gt-eedsp!owen

[From jrd - Right, we need a Grid guru. Any volunteers?]

[Ed. - See messages below....]

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 88 18:14:14 EST
From: David Kirschbaum <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re Grids and Kermit
Keywords: GRiD Kermit

NetLandians,

I keep hearing pleas from Grid users to make Kermit work with the Grids.
I'd be more than glad to give a hack to it (got source for v2.30, much
experience with assembler, comm ports, etc.).  However .. I do NOT have any
details on the stupid serial ports, interrupts, chips, etc. for the Grid
running under MS-DOS.

I tried long ago to get such information, or little smidgens of source code
for Grid's stupid comm program, but discovered I was suspected of trying to
steal the Crown Jewels .. and left Grid to their own just deserts.  If
someone has ANY technical information on exactly what it takes to tweak a
Grid's serial port(s), and can pass that info to me (ANY language!  Just so
it isn't buried in 80Kb of some pirated comm program's binary object file.)
.. will be glad to give it a hack.  Of course I don't HAVE a Grid, so
couldn't test it .. but could send the .ASM source (fully documented) to a
willing volunteer (who had MASM) to assemble and test.

Mail directly to me .. no use inflicting Info-Kermit with this.

David Kirschbaum
Toad Hall
[e-mail]

[Ed. - Thanks for the offer David.  Anyone with a GRiD willing to help?
But first, see following messages.]

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 88 13:55 EST
From: RLH <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Kermit 2.30 on GRID
Keywords: GRiD Kermit

In Vol. 7, No. 4, Owen Adair wrote about not being able to run MS Kermit v
2.30 on a Grid model 1101. I am not familiar with the model 1101, but do
have v 2.30 running on a Grid GRIDCASE 2 PLUS.

I used a copy of the executable that I had put together for a standard
IBM-PC and it worked without changes. I never even tried the Grid specific
code. I have not exercised all Kermit features but I have done considerable
file transfer between the Grid and VAX/VMS as well as with true IBM-PC's -
no problems. Also, the VT102 terminal emulation works great with DEC
software such as TPU, EDT, and LSE.

Version 2.30 is a great package. Thanks to everyone who helped put it
together.

                Bob Haar        ( [e-mail] )
                G.M. Research Labs

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 88 10:48:54 EST
From: sundc!hadron![e-mail] (Kurt L. Reisler)
Subject: Re: MS-KERMIT 2.30 for the GRiD
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 2.30, GRiD Kermit

>
> Does this mean that you have tested the GRiD version and found it to work?
> I've had reports from other people that it didn't work.  If it does, could
> you send a brief synopsis of your exact system model, OS version number,
> configuration, etc, so that we can pin down what the problem might be, if
> any?  Thanks!  - Frank
> -------
>

Well, I have not tested it extensively, but I have tried it on a 1129, and a
friend has tried it on an 1101.  You need to set port 2 to access the
internal modem.  Then, in uppercase (shift escape to lock) you need to do a
ATZE1 to see your commmands echod.  Problems include the fact that it
appears to run only at 300 baud, and there is an EXTREME amount of internal
buffering going on, until you escape back to the kermit command level.  Then
the buffering seems to go away (?).  I have successfully transfered a file
(at 300 baud GAK!).  I hope to have more time this weekend to play with it
further.  Let me see what version of MSDOS it is running. MSDOS 2-11 Bios
version C

Help that this helps. and I will keep you posted.

(later...)

What a wonderous thing documentation is.  It causes the gloom to lift
like the rising of the sun :-)

Adding the following to the autoexec.bat file on the MSDOS side of the
GRiD will cause the modem port (comm2) to default to 1200 baud:

echo baud=1200 > com2stat

Once in KERMIT, use the SET PORT 2 command to access the modem, and it
will only take upper case commands.  Will be testing it more extensively
over the weekend.

 Kurt Reisler [phone]

 UNISIG Chairman, DECUS US Chapter                       | Hadron, Inc.
 ..{uunet|sundc|rlgvax|netxcom|decuac}!hadron!klr        | 9990 Lee Highway
 Sysop, Fido 109/74  The Bear's Den   [phone]     | Suite 481
 Sysop, Fido 109/483 The Pot of Gold  [phone]     | Fairfax, VA 22030


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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 88 23:47:35 EST
From: sundc!hadron![e-mail] (Kurt L. Reisler)
Subject: Re: MS-KERMIT 2.30 for the GRid
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit 2.30, GRiD Kermit

As promised, more information, and ALL of it is posative.  I have a working
copy of "GRiD Compass II Version A MS Kermit V2.30" dated 8 January 1988.  I
got it off of Columbia via anonymous ftp, in the normal boo format.  Used
the utilited from Columbia to convert the boo file to a .EXE file on my 4.2
BSD system, transferred it to my Fido BBS (on a DEC Rainbow) then using
MediaMaster, to a SSSD IBM diskette, to the GRiD.

I have used it sussessfully (am using it at the moment) on a GRiD 1101 and
GRiD 1129.  In both cases, the systems are configured with a GRiD 2101 Hard
disk subsystem.  The GRiDS are setup for GRiDOS, with the MSDOS (2.11-C)
running on a partition of the hard disk.  I also figured out how to get it
to run at 1200 baud (RTFD :-).

Anyway, in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file on the MSDOS partition, I have the
following:

    ECHO BAUD=1200 > COM2STAT
    ECHO V=250 > COM2STAT

To set the baud rate and volume on the modem.  In the MSKERMIT.INI file,
I have the following:

    SET PORT 2
    SET BAUD 1200
    STAT

Once I Connect to the modem, I issue the following command to the modem:

    ATE1Q0V1

So that I can see what I am doing with the standard Hayes modem
commands.

So far, it seems to work fine.  Have been able to upload and download
files between the GRiD and my FIDO systems without problems.

Anyway, hope this has been helpful.  If you think it would be useful, I
can uuencode the copy I have and post it to the net.  In addition, it is
available for download from either of my fido nodes, listed in the
.signature below.

 Kurt Reisler [phone]

 UNISIG Chairman, DECUS US Chapter                       | Hadron, Inc.
 ..{uunet|sundc|rlgvax|netxcom|decuac}!hadron!klr        | 9990 Lee Highway
 Sysop, Fido 109/74  The Bear's Den   [phone]     | Suite 481
 Sysop, Fido 109/483 The Pot of Gold  [phone]     | Fairfax, VA 22030

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Date: 10 Feb 88 14:07 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Kermit 2.30 for GRiD
Keywords: MS-DOS Kermit, GRiD Kermit

;;;    I downloaded 2.30 Kermit for the GRiD (.BOO format) and it
;;;    tries to run, but all I get is garbage then it crashes. Has anyone
;;;    else tested the beast on a GRiD model 1101? I currently use 2.29
;;;    and it works although not all the features function.


Last night I brought MSTGRI 2.30 up on my Grid and it worked well, except
for baud rate change (I couldn't get 300 baud to work). I called a couple of
systems and performed successful uploads and downloads of ASCII files (I
haven't tried binaries yet).

My system is a Grid Compass-II 1121, which is like the 1101 except that it has
ROM sockets. I was using ROM-based MS-DOS 2.11. I did have to explicitly SET
PORT 2 from inside Kermit. My modem driver is Grid's MODEM.SYS. I dialed out by
typing C, then ATTD 123-4567.

[Ed. - So it seems that the GRiD version of 2.30 sort of works on the GRiD
Compass, which is not IBM Compatible, and that the IBM PC version works on
the GRIDCASE 2 PLUS, which is IBM compatible.  So we have a semisolid base to
work from, in case anyone who is a GRiD expert wants to make improvements.
Volunteers should contact Info-Kermit@CU20B.  Meanwhile, these messages have
been added to the "beware file" for the GRiD, MSVGRI.BWR.]

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